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Doing a lot of season reflecting today, but taking that even a step further back to the beginning of the Matt LaFleur era, obviously back-to-back seasons with 13-3 records mean he is doing a lot of things right. I think the most important thing he has done, though, and with attitude and expectation is taking care of the business right in our own backyard.
Matt LaFleur vs NFCN
Bears - 4-0
Lions - 4-0
Vikings - 3-1
That brought me back to the end of the Mike McCarthy era:
McCarthy vs NFC North (2006 - 2016) & (2017 - 2018)
Chicago = 16-6 & 3-1
Detroit = 18-3 & 0-4
Minnesota = 16-6-1 & 0-3-1
Remarkable turnaround.
Matt LaFleur vs NFCN
Bears - 4-0
Lions - 4-0
Vikings - 3-1
That brought me back to the end of the Mike McCarthy era:
McCarthy vs NFC North (2006 - 2016) & (2017 - 2018)
Chicago = 16-6 & 3-1
Detroit = 18-3 & 0-4
Minnesota = 16-6-1 & 0-3-1
Remarkable turnaround.
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So basically MLF beat the Lions whereas 17 and 18 McCarthy didn't.NCF wrote: ↑08 Jan 2021 15:47Doing a lot of season reflecting today, but taking that even a step further back to the beginning of the Matt LaFleur era, obviously back-to-back seasons with 13-3 records mean he is doing a lot of things right. I think the most important thing he has done, though, and with attitude and expectation is taking care of the business right in our own backyard.
Matt LaFleur vs NFCN
Bears - 4-0
Lions - 4-0
Vikings - 3-1
That brought me back to the end of the Mike McCarthy era:
McCarthy vs NFC North (2006 - 2016) & (2017 - 2018)
Chicago = 16-6 & 3-1
Detroit = 18-3 & 0-4
Minnesota = 16-6-1 & 0-3-1
Remarkable turnaround.
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from michael lombardi at the athletic
For me, the No. 1 statistic is the first-half point differential.
Teams that are in the top five of first-half point differential go to the Super Bowl
1. Green Bay
2. Baltimore
3. Buffalo
4. New Orleans
5. Seattle
6. Kansas City
On average, the Packers outscore their opponents 18-6 in the first half, taking a 2 score lead into the locker room
For me, the No. 1 statistic is the first-half point differential.
Teams that are in the top five of first-half point differential go to the Super Bowl
1. Green Bay
2. Baltimore
3. Buffalo
4. New Orleans
5. Seattle
6. Kansas City
On average, the Packers outscore their opponents 18-6 in the first half, taking a 2 score lead into the locker room
IT. IS. TIME
Is there any statistic showing how predictive first half point differential is?BSA wrote: ↑08 Jan 2021 23:24from michael lombardi at the athletic
For me, the No. 1 statistic is the first-half point differential.
Teams that are in the top five of first-half point differential go to the Super Bowl
1. Green Bay
2. Baltimore
3. Buffalo
4. New Orleans
5. Seattle
6. Kansas City
On average, the Packers outscore their opponents 18-6 in the first half, taking a 2 score lead into the locker room
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My first reaction is yeah, look at what I posted !
Those 6 teams with best 1st half differential are essentially a list of the winningest teams. But I get what you're asking and yes there is a HUGE correlation between leading at halftime and winning the game. If I can find the article again,I'll grab a link. However, in the Packers 3 losses this year, at halftime they were ahead, behind and then tied.. so its obviously not 100 % predictive
This concept of "pass to gain a lead and then run to secure the win" really works - and it hints at why MLF and Gute wanted Dillon to close out the 2nd half. In 1st half, MLF's offense is number 1 in the entire league at 18.7 pts - that means he has the first part of the concept completed;gaining a lead. Now he needs to make the "run to secure the win" just a little bit more consistent and this Packers offense has another gear for the playoffs.
IT. IS. TIME
Let me see if I can find it.BF004 wrote: ↑09 Jan 2021 07:07Is there any statistic showing how predictive first half point differential is?BSA wrote: ↑08 Jan 2021 23:24from michael lombardi at the athletic
For me, the No. 1 statistic is the first-half point differential.
Teams that are in the top five of first-half point differential go to the Super Bowl
1. Green Bay
2. Baltimore
3. Buffalo
4. New Orleans
5. Seattle
6. Kansas City
On average, the Packers outscore their opponents 18-6 in the first half, taking a 2 score lead into the locker room
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Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
Guess I was referring to the season long aggregate number vs playoff/super bowl success.BSA wrote: ↑09 Jan 2021 10:34My first reaction is yeah, look at what I posted !
Those 6 teams with best 1st half differential are essentially a list of the winningest teams. But I get what you're asking and yes there is a HUGE correlation between leading at halftime and winning the game. If I can find the article again,I'll grab a link. However, in the Packers 3 losses this year, at halftime they were ahead, behind and then tied.. so its obviously not 100 % predictive
This concept of "pass to gain a lead and then run to secure the win" really works - and it hints at why MLF and Gute wanted Dillon to close out the 2nd half. In 1st half, MLF's offense is number 1 in the entire league at 18.7 pts - that means he has the first part of the concept completed;gaining a lead. Now he needs to make the "run to secure the win" just a little bit more consistent and this Packers offense has another gear for the playoffs.
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https://stathead.com/tiny/Mc2Lp - Games over the last 10 seasons where the team leads by 1+
https://stathead.com/tiny/ncgIZ - Total scoring margin at half over the last 10 years per team
https://stathead.com/tiny/NcPWk - Current season halftime scoring margin.
https://stathead.com/tiny/ncgIZ - Total scoring margin at half over the last 10 years per team
https://stathead.com/tiny/NcPWk - Current season halftime scoring margin.
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Palmy - "Very few have the ability to truly excel regardless of system. For many the system is the difference between being just a guy or an NFL starter. Fact is, everyone is talented at this level."
article on Nathaniel Hackett and the Goldmember theme
https://madison.com/wsj/sports/football ... e73f.html?
https://madison.com/wsj/sports/football ... e73f.html?
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BSA wrote: ↑09 Jan 2021 23:50article on Nathaniel Hackett and the Goldmember theme
https://madison.com/wsj/sports/football ... e73f.html?
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“We didn’t lose the game; we just ran out of time.”
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Nice visual depiction of how bad it really could be next year for a lot of teams.
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I literally stared at this for like 45 seconds before I found the Saints.
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Not pretty for GB either though - only like 5 teams in worse shape than us right now.
Yep, as it stands. What this cannot show, though, is all the easy avenues teams have to access cap. Release players with high salary and little dead cap. Extend young stars with big cap numbers, etc. We know our own situation pretty well, but I wonder what some of these teams will have to do in order to break out of the red. I still think there is the potential for some sort of compromise that will avoid the massive cap shrinkage that is being projected.kyle.mccarroll wrote: ↑11 Jan 2021 08:52Not pretty for GB either though - only like 5 teams in worse shape than us right now.
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Interesting.
Colts gotta do something to get a QB, man.
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Undeniable facts. Rodgers has no Nickelodeon Valuable Player awards.
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Yeah I don't think cap worries me too much. You can clear out a cap issue in one season. So if our dealings ends up with a Rodgers SB ring in 2020...I say go for it in 2021 and 2022 and then clean house and restart with Love if they don't bear any fruit.NCF wrote: ↑11 Jan 2021 09:18Yep, as it stands. What this cannot show, though, is all the easy avenues teams have to access cap. Release players with high salary and little dead cap. Extend young stars with big cap numbers, etc. We know our own situation pretty well, but I wonder what some of these teams will have to do in order to break out of the red. I still think there is the potential for some sort of compromise that will avoid the massive cap shrinkage that is being projected.kyle.mccarroll wrote: ↑11 Jan 2021 08:52Not pretty for GB either though - only like 5 teams in worse shape than us right now.
Only real players on offense I want to keep beyond 2022 is Jenkins, Dillon, Adams and Love. And Lazard too because I love the guy and his attitude.
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I think that should be the plan even if they DO bear fruit.
But we absolutely have to win one of the next three Super Bowls for me to feel content with this phase of the team (the early-MLF, late-Rodgers phase, we can call it. EMLR for short). I rarely put a standard that high, but we have a really great window right now.