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Re: Aaron Rodgers

Posted: 11 May 2020 19:20
by YoHoChecko
Just came across some interesting info.

The Super Bowl has been around for 54 years now.

Only 20 QBs have appeared in more than 1 Super Bowl.
  • Favre and Starr have 2 apiece.
Only 12 QBs have won more than one Super Bowl.

Only 7 QBs have been to more than 3 Super Bowls.

Only 4 QBs have won more than 2 Super Bowls
  • Brady (6), Bradshaw (4), Montana (4), Aikman (3)
  • These 4 QBs have won 17/54 Super Bowls (31.5%)
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Re: Aaron Rodgers

Posted: 14 May 2020 22:14
by Drj820
Fake news florio says Rodgers is going to speak with media tomorrow at 3pm est. :munch:

Re: Aaron Rodgers

Posted: 14 May 2020 23:41
by Packfntk
Drj820 wrote:
14 May 2020 22:14
Fake news florio says Rodgers is going to speak with media tomorrow at 3pm est. :munch:
He is, but Florio will twist and turn every word he says to get clicks and reactions. If Florio and McGinn would disappear life would be much cooler.

Re: Aaron Rodgers

Posted: 15 May 2020 10:41
by British
Rodgers scheduled for 2pm CT, LaFleur 3.30 CT.

Hopefully it will streamed on the Packers YouTube channel.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJtI-l ... rBg/videos

Re: Aaron Rodgers

Posted: 15 May 2020 11:36
by YoHoChecko
Man, Florio's writeup was basically: everything he says will be analyzed... and if he says things are fine, he's probably lying and will need to reconcile it with what Favre said Rodgers is feeling."

Re: Aaron Rodgers

Posted: 15 May 2020 14:23
by Drj820
Rodgers sounding like a true pro, as expected. Florio is a clown.

Re: Aaron Rodgers

Posted: 15 May 2020 14:46
by YoHoChecko
OH I MISSED IT

Re: Aaron Rodgers

Posted: 15 May 2020 14:47
by British
Rodgers was great, as expected. Sounds miles ahead of Favre at the same stage.

Sounds like Love will get a better apprenticeship from Rodgers than Rodgers got himself.

Re: Aaron Rodgers

Posted: 15 May 2020 14:47
by British
YoHoChecko wrote:
15 May 2020 14:46
OH I MISSED IT

Re: Aaron Rodgers

Posted: 15 May 2020 14:52
by Drj820
interesting that rodgers pointed out the love draft selection was not the same as when the packers drafted him, because he has made it clear he wants to play into his 40s. He said Favre was already hinting at retirement. Sounds like Rodgers is prepared to be a good soldier (props to him), while somewhat expecting to end his career somewhere else (fair enough).

Re: Aaron Rodgers

Posted: 15 May 2020 15:06
by YoHoChecko
Everything about this press conference--especially listening to it, rather than just reading quotes--reaffirms my belief that this whole thing will be a non-issue internally for at least 2 years.

Time for people to find something else to talk about; they won't, but a guy can dream.

Really liked the way he talked about MVS, EQ, and the TEs.

Re: Aaron Rodgers

Posted: 15 May 2020 15:50
by salmar80
Aaron is so analytical. I didn't expect him to blow a fuse over the Love pick, and he didn't.

I think he views this mainly as a profession, not as a personal, emotional thing. I don't think he'd take even a trade as a personal insult, tho I bet he'd hate to play for a team with no chance at the SB. He'll play his career out, until the body says "no more", when and where ever that is, and retire into something meaningful for him with plenty of resources to make it happen. End of the Packers or football isn't the end of meaningful life for him.

Some fans would like for the QB of the Packers to be ALL about the Packers, but that's just not AR. He has plans beyond the Packers, and I'm fine with it.

I noticed AR didn't say he'd mentor Love, rather build a good relationship with him. That's good. It is up to Love to develop as a player. AR is not the QBs coach, he has to focus on playing. He did say he'd be open to answering any questions his backups might have.

The thought of not playing with the same organization into his 40s came outta the blue for him, I think, but I also think he has the mind to distance himself from the situation, view it through an organizational lens, and conclude he still benefits from playing the best he can. Whatever happens.

I'm personally much like AR. Been a part of some good organizations, teams, worked with good people. But have never let myself to be emotionally married to my employer, not even when I've loved the work and/or people I've worked with. The high ups make decisions based on different things than me, and there's no use getting upset about it. Good work leads to good things, often unplanned ones.

Re: Aaron Rodgers

Posted: 15 May 2020 16:06
by Drj820


Rodgers honesty is a treasure. Much rather have nuanced honesty than 24/7 on brand coach speak from the russ Wilson types

Re: Aaron Rodgers

Posted: 15 May 2020 16:18
by YoHoChecko
I agree, drj.

That answer stood out a bit to me, as well; a genuine self reflection about whether or not his goals were within his control anymore or not.

What does bother me is all the tweets and reactions and NFL headlines and such are highlighting the answers that contrast his position from Favre's when he was drafted and his realization that he may not finish his career, and I haven't seen any headlines like "Rodgers expresses confidence in his WRs" or "Rodgers says he plans to have a great working relationship with Love" which would be equally accurate.

Re: Aaron Rodgers

Posted: 15 May 2020 17:28
by British
YoHoChecko wrote:
15 May 2020 16:18
I agree, drj.

That answer stood out a bit to me, as well; a genuine self reflection about whether or not his goals were within his control anymore or not.

What does bother me is all the tweets and reactions and NFL headlines and such are highlighting the answers that contrast his position from Favre's when he was drafted and his realization that he may not finish his career, and I haven't seen any headlines like "Rodgers expresses confidence in his WRs" or "Rodgers says he plans to have a great working relationship with Love" which would be equally accurate.
F*** the headlines. It doesn't seem like Rodgers lets them get to him, apart from when he wants to get motivated.

Re: Aaron Rodgers

Posted: 15 May 2020 17:31
by Captain_Ben
salmar80 wrote:
15 May 2020 15:50
Aaron is so analytical. I didn't expect him to blow a fuse over the Love pick, and he didn't.

I think he views this mainly as a profession, not as a personal, emotional thing. I don't think he'd take even a trade as a personal insult, tho I bet he'd hate to play for a team with no chance at the SB. He'll play his career out, until the body says "no more", when and where ever that is, and retire into something meaningful for him with plenty of resources to make it happen. End of the Packers or football isn't the end of meaningful life for him.

Some fans would like for the QB of the Packers to be ALL about the Packers, but that's just not AR. He has plans beyond the Packers, and I'm fine with it.

I noticed AR didn't say he'd mentor Love, rather build a good relationship with him. That's good. It is up to Love to develop as a player. AR is not the QBs coach, he has to focus on playing. He did say he'd be open to answering any questions his backups might have.

The thought of not playing with the same organization into his 40s came outta the blue for him, I think, but I also think he has the mind to distance himself from the situation, view it through an organizational lens, and conclude he still benefits from playing the best he can. Whatever happens.

I'm personally much like AR. Been a part of some good organizations, teams, worked with good people. But have never let myself to be emotionally married to my employer, not even when I've loved the work and/or people I've worked with. The high ups make decisions based on different things than me, and there's no use getting upset about it. Good work leads to good things, often unplanned ones.
It's a good point that I agree with. This is just a hunch but I could actually see him retiring earlier than many would expect, for this reason. AR is highly intelligent and his interests span far beyond just football. Kobe Bryant made a mark in the movie business. I could see Aaron similarly trying his hand at some non-football related endeavor post-retirement.

Re: Aaron Rodgers

Posted: 15 May 2020 17:38
by Drj820
Lots of people say they don’t see him playing very late, or he won’t go as long as brees or Brady...but coming from his actual mouth we have heard nothing of the sorts. He’s always said he wants to play into his 40s.

Guess everyone thinks he’s joking.

Re: Aaron Rodgers

Posted: 15 May 2020 17:45
by Captain_Ben
Drj820 wrote:
15 May 2020 17:38
Lots of people say they don’t see him playing very late, or he won’t go as long as brees or Brady...but coming from his actual mouth we have heard nothing of the sorts. He’s always said he wants to play into his 40s.

Guess everyone thinks he’s joking.
I don't doubt his sincerity. I think that unless he adjusts his game, he will sustain a major injury and not be able to play that long. He continues to hold the ball for too long. Old bodies don't absorb hits as well. Dump it off quick like Brady!

Re: Aaron Rodgers

Posted: 15 May 2020 19:00
by Pugger
I'm very pleased that Aaron was a pro talking to the media. This same media howled because Gute didn't "give" Rodgers any help because we didn't draft a WR last month. Gute acquired 2 veteran WRs this offseason & bolstered the running game. Having a potent running game for a QB who isn't as mobile as he once was might make Rodgers' life so much easier going forward.

Re: Aaron Rodgers

Posted: 16 May 2020 07:50
by Yoop
Captain_Ben wrote:
15 May 2020 17:45
Drj820 wrote:
15 May 2020 17:38
Lots of people say they don’t see him playing very late, or he won’t go as long as brees or Brady...but coming from his actual mouth we have heard nothing of the sorts. He’s always said he wants to play into his 40s.

Guess everyone thinks he’s joking.
I don't doubt his sincerity. I think that unless he adjusts his game, he will sustain a major injury and not be able to play that long. He continues to hold the ball for too long. Old bodies don't absorb hits as well. Dump it off quick like Brady!
I don't know why people think that has not already been happening, we know in our own selves that change doesn't happen fast, so why do we expect it to happen for a QB thats played in basically one system for a doz years, we saw him miss some check downs or open receivers less imo as the season progressed, less scrambling or extending plays late season too, and plenty of it was actually do to receivers not able to perform there end of the deal, yet no one wants to blame those stooges, just Rodgers.