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Re: '23 Playoff Picture

Posted: 01 Dec 2023 16:01
by APB
wallyuwl wrote:
01 Dec 2023 13:24
Cdragon wrote:
01 Dec 2023 05:49


I don't care who we would play. It is opportunity to get the kids reps. That's what they really need at this point. Getting used to the bump in excitement and pressure in the playoffs is a bonus. This is the launching pad for next year's run.
Reps is important. The "launching pad" argument doesn't hold water. Every year is different and one year does not carry over to the next. All winning in 2017 at the end did is get a worse draft position, 2018 was the same as it would have been (and it was bad).
Wait a minute...2017? The year they went 8-8, losing the final three games of the season? Followed up with the 6-9-1 season in 2018?

I'm not even sure what you're getting at with those references...?

Re: '23 Playoff Picture

Posted: 02 Dec 2023 07:26
by musclestang
Every year is different. Every year you have to re-dedicate to your craft, learn the playbook, take care of you body, avoid injury, learn to play with new guys and new nuances etc. all that is true.

BUT, everything you've done in the past has a major impact on what you will do in the future. Learning isn't linear. The more experiences you have to draw from the more likely you are to respond appropriately to new stuff that may be similar or the same. What you did last year absolutely influences what you will do this year.

Everything being "new" only means you can't sit on your ass and expect last year to carry you thru this year. It means you build on it. Yes, launching points are real. There are always exceptions, but for the most part it's how things go. If my team is losing while learning, i'm ok as long as they're learning. If my team is winning while learning it's a little sweeter. If they're taking plays off or intentionally putting them in poor positions to get a better draft pick, well congrats on creating a losing culture. Take your walking papers at the end of the year please.

as always, playing for draft picks is for losers.

Re: '23 Playoff Picture

Posted: 02 Dec 2023 08:02
by NCF
Are we sure we can't still win the division?

Since a 1-6 start last year, Detroit is 16-5.

Wins - GB, @CHI, @NYG, JAX, MIN, @NYJ, CHI, @GB, @KC, ATL, @GB, CAR, @TB, LV, @LAC, CHI

Losses - BUF, @CAR, SEA, @BAL, GB

Other than the KC win and maybe a couple nice wins against the Chargers and us, they have plowed through a really easy schedule.

By the way, that 1-6 start last season included losses to PHI, @MIN, SEA, @NE, @DAL, MIA with a lonely win against WAS.

Detroit's remaining schedule:

@NO
@CHI
DEN
@MIN
@DAL
MIN

Re: '23 Playoff Picture

Posted: 02 Dec 2023 09:56
by BF004
NCF wrote:
02 Dec 2023 08:02
Are we sure we can't still win the division?

Since a 1-6 start last year, Detroit is 16-5.

Wins - GB, @CHI, @NYG, JAX, MIN, @NYJ, CHI, @GB, @KC, ATL, @GB, CAR, @TB, LV, @LAC, CHI

Losses - BUF, @CAR, SEA, @BAL, GB

Other than the KC win and maybe a couple nice wins against the Chargers and us, they have plowed through a really easy schedule.

By the way, that 1-6 start last season included losses to PHI, @MIN, SEA, @NE, @DAL, MIA with a lonely win against WAS.

Detroit's remaining schedule:

@NO
@CHI
DEN
@MIN
@DAL
MIN
Duh, I was the lone guy rooting for Seattle on Thursday, I still want #1 seed.

Re: '23 Playoff Picture

Posted: 03 Dec 2023 04:46
by williewasgreat
NCF wrote:
02 Dec 2023 08:02
Are we sure we can't still win the division?

Since a 1-6 start last year, Detroit is 16-5.

Wins - GB, @CHI, @NYG, JAX, MIN, @NYJ, CHI, @GB, @KC, ATL, @GB, CAR, @TB, LV, @LAC, CHI

Losses - BUF, @CAR, SEA, @BAL, GB

Other than the KC win and maybe a couple nice wins against the Chargers and us, they have plowed through a really easy schedule.

By the way, that 1-6 start last season included losses to PHI, @MIN, SEA, @NE, @DAL, MIA with a lonely win against WAS.

Detroit's remaining schedule:

@NO
@CHI
DEN
@MIN
@DAL
MIN
Unfortunately, I think Detroit should win all of their remaining games except @Dallas, unless they continue to turn the ball over a lot. Of course, that doesn't mean they will, but I also think the Packers will lose a few more games. They are still very young and learning.

Re: '23 Playoff Picture

Posted: 03 Dec 2023 09:13
by go pak go
NCF wrote:
02 Dec 2023 08:02
Are we sure we can't still win the division?

Since a 1-6 start last year, Detroit is 16-5.

Wins - GB, @CHI, @NYG, JAX, MIN, @NYJ, CHI, @GB, @KC, ATL, @GB, CAR, @TB, LV, @LAC, CHI

Losses - BUF, @CAR, SEA, @BAL, GB

Other than the KC win and maybe a couple nice wins against the Chargers and us, they have plowed through a really easy schedule.

By the way, that 1-6 start last season included losses to PHI, @MIN, SEA, @NE, @DAL, MIA with a lonely win against WAS.

Detroit's remaining schedule:

@NO
@CHI
DEN
@MIN
@DAL
MIN
I've been thinking about this a lot.

At first I was like...MN sweeps DET we have a shot at the division! But we would have to win out and DET would have to lose to the right teams. It's just such a long shot. Had we beaten PIT or ATL it would be a totally different conversation.

If I'm being honest, I WANT our Lions win to mean something. The anti-fun club on this forum will be reminding us all offseason about how the Lions win was meaningless if Detroit ends up losing enough games to drop the division or get close to dropping the division by saying they can't beat good teams and the Lions are pretenders therefore the Packers are pretenders. I don't need more of those posts.

I'm actually rooting for Detroit. I want them to win. Get their first NFC North Title and then lose to GB in the Wildcard round.

Re: '23 Playoff Picture

Posted: 03 Dec 2023 22:45
by Drj820
We coming for the 6 seed

Re: '23 Playoff Picture

Posted: 04 Dec 2023 08:39
by BF004
That was quick.

14 days ago we woke up to 3-6 and several who’s fault and fire x threads. Talk of tanking for draft picks and do we have a QB or not.



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Re: '23 Playoff Picture

Posted: 04 Dec 2023 09:10
by Labrev
Booyah!! :banana:

Facing 10-2 Philly boosted SF's SOS slightly above ours. To their credit, they handed them an L. SF is the team to beat. But RIP to the narrative that this team had an easier schedule than during last year's losing skid.

Re: '23 Playoff Picture

Posted: 04 Dec 2023 09:10
by Pckfn23
Only SF has a slightly tougher SoS of the "playoff" teams.

Re: '23 Playoff Picture

Posted: 04 Dec 2023 09:16
by Pckfn23

Re: '23 Playoff Picture

Posted: 04 Dec 2023 09:19
by go pak go
MLF made a comment in yesterday's presser.

JOB NOT DONE. I like that motto for the rest of the year.

Re: '23 Playoff Picture

Posted: 04 Dec 2023 09:30
by Drj820
We are in the midst of a very impressive turn around, that includes wins against very good teams. Credit to Coach Lafleur and his staff.

Re: '23 Playoff Picture

Posted: 04 Dec 2023 09:37
by paco
Gotta get to that 6 spot and hopefully play Detroit again.

Re: '23 Playoff Picture

Posted: 04 Dec 2023 09:40
by go pak go
At this point I don't get care about seeding. I care about record.

A Double Digit Win regular season is all that matters to me now. And that will be enough for the 6 seed.

Re: '23 Playoff Picture

Posted: 04 Dec 2023 09:48
by Pckfn23
go pak go wrote:
04 Dec 2023 09:40
At this point I don't get care about seeding. I care about record.

A Double Digit Win regular season is all that matters to me now. And that will be enough for the 6 seed.
I really do hate to say it, but closing out the season on a 8-0 run is REALLY hard no matter our opponents. I still do expect a loss here in the next 5 games. That still gets us to 10 wins. Young team and all there is bound to be a stinker in there somewhere. Winning our last 8 games would be legendary.

Re: '23 Playoff Picture

Posted: 04 Dec 2023 09:58
by salmar80
Pckfn23 wrote:
04 Dec 2023 09:48
go pak go wrote:
04 Dec 2023 09:40
At this point I don't get care about seeding. I care about record.

A Double Digit Win regular season is all that matters to me now. And that will be enough for the 6 seed.
I really do hate to say it, but closing out the season on a 8-0 run is REALLY hard no matter our opponents. I still do expect a loss her in the next 5 games. That still gets us to 10 wins. Young team and all there is bound to be a stinker in there somewhere. Winning our last 8 games would be legendary.
I kinda like sound of "legendary"...

Re: '23 Playoff Picture

Posted: 04 Dec 2023 09:58
by go pak go
Pckfn23 wrote:
04 Dec 2023 09:48
go pak go wrote:
04 Dec 2023 09:40
At this point I don't get care about seeding. I care about record.

A Double Digit Win regular season is all that matters to me now. And that will be enough for the 6 seed.
I really do hate to say it, but closing out the season on a 8-0 run is REALLY hard no matter our opponents. I still do expect a loss her in the next 5 games. That still gets us to 10 wins. Young team and all there is bound to be a stinker in there somewhere. Winning our last 8 games would be legendary.
Yup. I would be absolutely shocked if we go undefeated. I expect 1 loss for sure. I would be disappointed with 2 losses or more.

Re: '23 Playoff Picture

Posted: 04 Dec 2023 10:39
by APB
paco wrote:
04 Dec 2023 09:37
Gotta get to that 6 spot and hopefully play Detroit again.
I don't think the #5 spot is out of reach. The Cowboys next 4 games:

vs Eagles
@ Bills
@ Dolphins
vs Lions

I could see them losing to all four of those teams.

Re: '23 Playoff Picture

Posted: 04 Dec 2023 10:41
by BF004